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Ancestors
of Miles Hochstein (Great Grandmother)
Ida
Katherine (Stobernack) Schmidt
b. 1857 in Hannibal, Missouri,
d. 1932 in Hannibal, Missouri
"Mother
would have had more self confidence if she had gone further in school."
So wrote Bertha Grace Schmidt
of her mother, Ida.
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Daughter
of John Stobernack
(b. 1820 Berlin(?), d. 1871, Hannibal, Missouri) and Karoline Friederike (nee Sandow) Stobernack (b. 1824 Berlin(?), d. 1873 Hannibal, Missouri).
One
of six siblings, including
1. Julius Gustav Stobernack, christened 17 Nov. 1850 at Sankt Petri (St. Peter (?)), Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen. Probably died before immigration to US. (LDS Records)
2. Otto Wilhelm, christened 31 May, 1852. Probably died before immigration to U.S. (LDS Records)
3. Anna Theresa Stobernack (b. circa 1854, in Belgium, christening on 15 January 1854 at Friedrickswerder, Berlin, Brandenburg, Preussen. (LDS records)
4. Herself, Ida Catherine Stobernack (b. circa 1857, in U.S.)
5. Bertha Stobernack (b. circa 1860, in Hannibal Missouri)
6. Emma Elizabeth Stobernack (b. in U.S.)
Wife
of William Adolphus
Schmidt (b 1854, in St. Charles Missouri, d 1899 in
Hannibal Missouri).
Mother
of Bertha Grace Schmidt
(1883-1975), Rowena Smith Carpenter (1893-1975), Ama
S. Jackson, and Ralph Schmidt.
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Above:
Inscription on back reads: "Ida Stobernack Schmidt
(ca. 1875) mother of Bertha Schmidt Smith) Hannibal Mo."
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A
Remarkable Image

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Bertha
(Schmidt) Smith, Ida's daughter wrote to her daughter Gianna:
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"My
mother's father [John Stobernack] died when she [Ida]
was 14 and her mother when she was 16. She was the oldest
of the three girls. They went to live in the home of their
guardian, John England, occupying the second floor. Their
parents had accumulated a little property and left some
insurance.
"Aunt
Bertha and Aunt Emma went away to normal school but Mr.
England didn't think it was necessary for her [Ida] to
go. That was a mistake. Mother would have had more self
confidence if she had gone further in school."
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Left:
Bertha Schmidt identifies the woman above as "Momma",
ie. Ida Stobernack Schmidt. I think this is a striking picture,
so different from the others. She looks so alive and vibrant.
Look at the pose she strikes, note the hand in the pocket. This
is not the sad old lady that my mother recalls, or the woman
who lacks confidence in the memory of her daughter Bertha. (See
complete photo on Bertha Schmidt's page.)
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The two sisters, Ida Stobernack and Emma Elizabeth (aka Emme
Lee or Emily) Stobernack married two brothers, respectively,
W. Adolphus Schmidt and Edward Carl Schmidt.

Above: Undated Portrait of Ida Stobernack
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Above:
Tin type, false color image. Inscription on back reads "Ida
Stobernack Schmidt, Hannibal, Missouri"
My
mother Gianna Hochstein
recalls being doted upon by her grandmother Ida. In my mother's
memory, at one point, there was a dispute between Gianna's grandmother
Ida (above) and her mother (Bertha). Apparently, Ida gave my
mother some candy, but her mother Bertha did not approve. Bertha
"resented intrusion" in her life by her mother, said
my mother. This was one of the few, if not the only time that
my mother met her grandmother Ida.
Clearly
my mother disproved of her mother's resentment of her own mother,
and saw her mother as excessively concerned to prevent "interference"
in her child raising.
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1880 the US Census found that Ida (Stobernack) Schmidt (age 22)
was Keeping House and married to Adolph Schmidt, a 25 year old
clerk with the Hannibal and St. John Railroad. Also living with
the couple in Hannibal, Marion county, Missouri, was Ida's sister
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The
letter below is from "Aunt Bertha" to a nephew named
Edward. A letter from Bertha Smith (grandmother of Miles Hochstein)
to daughter Gianna reports that Bertha Adelheida Stobernack
[was a] teacher and principal of a district school in Hannibal,
died April 12 1946"
Ginger
Nowling also found an identical version of the letter below
in her family effects. Ginger explains that
"This
was written to Edward Schmidt - son of Emma and Edward Carl.
He was very young when his parents died and was legally adopted
by Bertha at six years old. We have quite a bit of his personal
effects (pictures, etc.) that came to us through my Great
Uncle when he discovered we were doing family history research."
Hannibal,
Mo.
6/5/41
Dear
Edward:
Your
letter received. Your mother's father [John Stobernack,
MH] died in this city 1870. Your mother's mother [Catherine
(Sando) Stobernack? MH] died in this city 1873. Came
from Europe with one baby. Their other six children
were born in this city. All gone but myself. Know nothing
about their marriage date. Anyway it was more than 100
years ago. Our parents died when the remaining three
were children. I am 81 - know nothing about family genealogy,
leave out Europe if you want to but it's no disgrace
to have left there during an uprising revolution about
100 years ago. Glad my parents did come long before
their family of children were born.
Lovingly,
Aunt Bertha (Stobernack)
P.S.
My parents (that would be John Stobernack
and wife - MH) came from Cincinnati to Hannibal
and lived there all the rest of their lives. That is
all I can tell you so you can say "American born",
because they were A. That's what I told you about your
paternal grandparents because I knew nothing else. None
of the ancestors will ever come back to make any trouble.
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Above:
Ida Stobernack Schmidt and her granddaughter Gianna (circa
1932?), on one of the few visits she made prior to her death.
Note how very small Ida was. When her husband Dolph wrote
to his "darling little Ida" he wasn't just using
an endearment - she was tiny!
The
Edward referred to on the left is the son Emma (nee Stobernack)
Schmidt and Edward Carl Schmidt (source G. Nowling, communicaiton
Jan 30 2002)
If
one reads the letter in the context of June 1941 and the looming
war in Europe with Germany it would appear that "Edward"
was attempting to establish whether his parents were "American
born" and his Aunt Bertha is assuring him that they were.
I assume that she means by "died when the remaining three
were children", that three children still remained still
living at home when Katherine and John Stobernack died, Bertha,
Emma and my ancestor Ida Stobernack Schmidt, as is also known
from the previous quotation.
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I
had to read the above letter several times to grasp that she
is saying "don't be ashamed about being an immigrant from
Europe...your family had a good excuse! And I'm glad they came
before the children were born." (Because that was easier
for them? Because that meant they were born Americans? Difficult
to say what she means.)
It
is difficult to say what proportions of xenophobia, patriotism
and wit are intended by this crusty 81 year old woman's words,
but she sounds like an interesting character.
Bertha Stobernack, known from various sources to have been a school principal, is mentioned specifically in Hagood and Hagood's The Story of Hannibal, (p. 166, 1976) as one of Hannibal's school principals in 1923.
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"None
of the ancestors will ever come back to make any trouble."
said Bertha Stobernack (Sister
of Ida) in June 1941. Yes,
but she clearly didn't know the trouble that genealogical
research can cause.
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1880
Census
As
noted above, Ida and her sisters went to live with their guardian,
Mr. John England upon their parents' deaths in 1871 or 1873.
By
1880 Ida, 22, had married (see above) and Ida's sister Emma
16 lived with them.
The
other sister Bertha (see letter above) had gone on to school,
and would not (it appears) marry, but instead became a school
teacher and administrator in Hannibal.
They
no longer resided with Mr. John England, but here is the census
data for Mr. John England of Hannibal, Missouri in 1880, in
whose house they had resided a few years previously.
John
England was a German born wagon maker, age 45, married to Jacobina
(38, also German born), with a 15 year old daughter, a 13 year
old son, and five year old daughter. A niece of Jacobina, from
"WERT", age 13, also resided in the household.
Somewhere
I THINK I read that one of the England children remained in
contact with Ida or to her daughter (my grandmother) Bertha.
This was probably in Bertha's letters.
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Back
revised
March 2006
Notes
Portrait
and Biographical Record of Ralls, Pike and Marion
Counties (886 pages) pub. CC Owen Co. Chicago 1895. Revised and Repreinted
by Ralls Co. Book Co. New London MO, 1982, out of print.)
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TEXT Extract: 1880 United States Census
5 CONT Census Place: Hannibal, Marion, Missouri
5 CONT Source: FHL Film 1254702; National Archives Film T9-0702; Page
294B
5 CONT Household:
5 CONT Rel Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
5 CONT John ENGLAND
5 CONT Self Male M W 45 GER
5 CONT Occ: Wagon Maker Fa: GER Mo: GER
5 CONT Jacobina ENGLAND
5 CONT Wife Female M W 38 WERT
5 CONT Occ: Keeping House Fa: WERT Mo: WERT
5 CONT Kate ENGLAND
5 CONT Dau Female S W 15 MO
5 CONT Occ: At Home Fa: GER Mo: WERT
5 CONT Henry ENGLAND
5 CONT Son Male S W 13 MO
5 CONT Fa: GER Mo: GER
5 CONT Ida ENGLAND
5 CONT Dau Female S W 5 MO
5 CONT Fa: GER Mo: GER
5 CONT Agnes LANG
5 CONT Niece Female S W 13 PA
5 CONT Fa: WERT Mo: WERT
0 @S01@ SOUR
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